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Building the Bergepanzer 2 from Takom
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Posted: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - 05:22 PM UTC
I ll better use a metal track...they are more realistic...
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Posted: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - 11:29 AM UTC
Well I finished and installed the Track that come with this Kit.
Some of you might agree with my conclusions and some may not.
Just remember this is what I think, what I found out , & this is my opinion only.
First off if you are really going to use these Tracks I sujest building a jig to hold them while under construction, they are rather flimsy with the poly caps the only thing holding them together. But For how long?


Then there's painting the poly end connectors / (How)
I used 83 Links for each run, I think using less might put too much strain on the flimsy parts.

I've used the Meng Track before and they work really nice.
I don't understand why Takom used this track and not a set of Link and Length like on some of their other kits. The Torsion Arms are fixed, Heck the Wheels need to be glued in place.

I'm not Happy right now.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 07:56 AM UTC

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It is the Orochi track. Even the sprues are the same. Takom use these in all their Leopard kits. How you build them is up to you.


Don't really give a Rats Back side who made them , There's no Jig supplied with the Kit , If you try to install them in one strip, hope you like what you get.

The Instructions say to do it My Way.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 05:59 AM UTC

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The end connectors are spaced correctly on their sprues to fit a run of links. You are not supposed to cut them off until you you have completed a run of links that you are comfortable with.

http://leopardclub.ca/reviews/Orochi/Leopard_1_tracks/



Be that as it may, the Track that you have shown are not exactly the same as the Track in this kit.
I the Kit the detail side is molded on the outside, and if you install them like the Orochi Track all you have on the outside is the cut area without any DETAIL.
LIKE SO

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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC
After the Guide Horn you snap on the next link.

Install the End Connectors , Cut area to the Link with the Nut Detail out

Once again back to the Guide Horn & continue on.

Here's the short section that I did so far.


Finished for now.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 05:37 AM UTC
I know that a lot of you are anxious to see how I did the Track, I'm still working on it. I have the method of doing it, here is an early shot on how I'm doing it.
First I painted the wear areas on the Guide Horns.

As seen in the Pics posted previously this side goes out.

It cuts easier with the Nut Side down.

If you make a Jig to hold everything this goes a lot easier.
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019 - 10:28 AM UTC

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Finally out:

Perfect Scale's

Interior for TAKOM´s Bergepanzer 2 Standard (2122) with decals.

https://www.perfect-scale.de/de/www-perfect-scale-de-3/Inneneinrichtung-Bergepanzer-2-Standard.html?XTCsid=5vuvi1iit7i7u5h7ac14rae4l5



Oh, my achin' wallet!
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019 - 06:45 AM UTC
Some inspiration for painting those tracks
http://data3.primeportal.net/recovery/ulrich_wrede/bergepanzer_2-y_740_172/images/bergepanzer_2-y_740_172_14_of_16.jpg


Image borrowed from
http://www.primeportal.net/recovery/ulrich_wrede/bergepanzer_2-y_740_172/
where there are more images

/ Robin
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019 - 06:14 AM UTC
Finally out:

Perfect Scale's

Interior for TAKOM´s Bergepanzer 2 Standard (2122) with decals.

https://www.perfect-scale.de/de/www-perfect-scale-de-3/Inneneinrichtung-Bergepanzer-2-Standard.html?XTCsid=5vuvi1iit7i7u5h7ac14rae4l5
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019 - 05:17 AM UTC

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On the inside face of the tracks, only the centre panel is rubber, not the whole thing.


You are Correct, I have corrected it on the Track Links.
Donald
Here are the Pics.




Now unless something else comes up I should be able to start assembling them.
Donald
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 - 09:11 AM UTC
I'm watching with interest, as this berge is on my to-get list! My method of painting leo-style tracks is to spray them with a red-brown base coat, then a thinned earth colour, followed by gentle dry-brushing of the outer rubber pads with a rubbery black. From what I've seen they are always dirty or at least the metal oxidizes to an earth-brown colour, unless of course it's fresh from the wash rack and still dripping. On the inner side the middle strip of the pad is rubber (as Mike says) and the outer ones are metal, but I don't bother trying to paint the rubber strip. Instead I dry-brush alternating layers of earth (for the ground-in dirt) and rubber-black (for all the tire rubber that gets worn off on the track) along the direction of travel to simulate the way the wheels leave their mark on the track. Hope this helps! (And can't wait to hear how you cope with all those guide teeth and end connectors!)
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 - 03:32 AM UTC
Donald, good progress so far. I'll watch your build with big interest as this kit is on my wish list for years and years. So I hope old Santa will listen closely to this posting ....

I have some nice memomries of the "Bergeleo" during my active time, especially that 4. January 1989 still leaves a smile on my face when I needed the help of one of these from our recovery unit to get my truck out of deep mud - after 6 hours waiting for it. It took only 15 minutes then but we were all covered with mud, especially me ....

Enjoy the build!
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2019 - 02:33 AM UTC
I finally have the Track Links painted.




I sprayed all the parts with Model Master Gun Metal paint, then cut the Sprue into easy handle strips to make it easier to hand paint the rubber pads. This is very tedious painting.
Now it's ready for assembly.
That's all for now.
Donald
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 08:40 PM UTC
I ll be waiting for an interior kit to come for sure..
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 03:14 AM UTC
The V sprues come from Gepard it and the extra sprocket wheel is the early style with 8 bolts hubs which is correct for Gepard and earlier Leopard. The Bergeleopard kit has the later style with 15 bolts and this is correct for most Bergeleopard (and later Leopard) except for the initial batch. For exaple Italian Army bought 127 Bergeleopards in two batches and the first come from Germany, other beeing built in Italy under license by OTO Melara. All German made Bergeleopards had the 8 bolts hub, the others 15 bolts. During their service some tank from the first batch had the later wheel because they were totally interchangeable.
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 12:36 AM UTC
Phantastic build blog, Donald!
Thanks for adding all the useful information, very appreciated.

Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 06:52 AM UTC
Have the Wheels assembled and installed .

No Poly caps on the Wheels, so they will be glued eventually .


Painting before assembling the Track, that's coming up when they'r done
Regards.
Donald
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 06:51 AM UTC

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Thanks for all the useful tips.
By the way the extra sprocket wheels feature different hubs. They are not the same you used on your model.

Olivier


I used the ones called fore in the instructions, just wanted to point out that there were different ones in the box
Donald
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 10:42 PM UTC
Thanks for all the useful tips.
By the way the extra sprocket wheels feature different hubs. They are not the same you used on your model.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 10:30 AM UTC
Nice recovery. Thanks for posting the tips.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 10:11 AM UTC




I got distracted with the Blade, I just realized that I could have installed the Blade Mounts upside down that would have complicated everything , luckily I had them right.
This was to maby keep any of you from making the mistake

Maby now on to the Wheels and Track
Donald