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USS Intrepid CV11 1944 -1/350 Scale
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2018 - 06:37 AM GMT+7

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Amazing progress Si and nice touches on the interior. I like the way you removed most of the doors but then you have plenty of planes to show off. I think when I get started I will have to be more judicious in that area.
I am interested, did your photo etch ste have any details for the interior because I note that mine has none. Given some of the detail they go to it seems an area overlooked for carriers.
Keep up the good work.

cheers
Michael



Hi Michael,

My upgrade has nothing for the hanger either, which is slightly disappointing, but opening it was too tempting, I am banking on the aircraft drawing the eye from any lack of detail.

Meantime looking forward to your kick off mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2018 - 06:30 AM GMT+7

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Wow Si you are really making progress with the hanger and adding the little details.

It not you but the kit needing more putty. I go through a lot when dealing with ship kits. There is always a gap where the deck meets the hull let along having all of the superstructures sitting flush on the deck...In my dreams.

Anyway nice work, enjoying your posts.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

I do wonder sometimes, but the design of this kit with all those butt joins around the side of the hull is asking for trouble on the filling and filing front. On the other hand I cannot see how they could give that open hanger.

I do hope some of the added detail shows when the hanger is loaded with aircraft and the flight deck fixed down.

thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2018 - 06:58 PM GMT+7
Amazing progress Si and nice touches on the interior. I like the way you removed most of the doors but then you have plenty of planes to show off. I think when I get started I will have to be more judicious in that area.
I am interested, did your photo etch ste have any details for the interior because I note that mine has none. Given some of the detail they go to it seems an area overlooked for carriers.
Keep up the good work.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2018 - 01:42 PM GMT+7

Wow Si you are really making progress with the hanger and adding the little details.

It not you but the kit needing more putty. I go through a lot when dealing with ship kits. There is always a gap where the deck meets the hull let along having all of the superstructures sitting flush on the deck...In my dreams.

Anyway nice work, enjoying your posts.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2018 - 07:49 AM GMT+7
This weekend's progress, which has revolved around the external hanger bulkheads.
The funnel trunkings, and other structure on the starboard side is somewhat bland. I have added a little detail, but as I am not adding any lighting even this is likely not to be visible.

The forward section.



The after section.



Having found a photo of an Essex using the deck edge lift, I have removed all shutters, trimmed out the divides and stacked them at the forward end.



The after bulkhead and port aft section with the sponson for 5" guns



All bulkheads test fitted.



I have no actual reference for this, with the elevators working I would assume there would be safety rail around the pit, as only one is provided in the Pontos etch I am saving that to go around the forward elevator on the flight deck.



The inner walls of the 40mm tubs and the boxes moulded onto the hanger deck given a coat of paint.



Following Trumpy's instructions the big lumps went down first.



All the bulkheads in place, I don't know whether it is me or the kit, but I am getting another tube of filler when I go the LHS on Saturday.



A few more aircraft ready for paint.



The forward section of the flight decks test fitted, a helldiver on the elevator.



I have test fitted the all three sections, but still have a little fettling to do on those.

More soon.

Cheers

Si





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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2018 - 06:30 AM GMT+7

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If you want international shipping from the US on paints I recommend megahobby. They shipped to me in combat zones while deployed, maybe they can ship to the UK. They have a great selection of anything model building related. You can probably source model master from them.



Thanks Norman

appreciate that mate, I will look into it.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2018 - 07:47 AM GMT+7
If you want international shipping from the US on paints I recommend megahobby. They shipped to me in combat zones while deployed, maybe they can ship to the UK. They have a great selection of anything model building related. You can probably source model master from them.
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2018 - 06:19 AM GMT+7

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I have been using modelmaster 20B deck blue 2159, good March and itís enamel. Lays down great when thinned. Slow drying though. I also use the AK interactive naval series sets AK 5000 and AK 5020. They have just about every naval color used in WW 2. My favorite are the 20B deck blue AK 5001, flight deck blue 21 AK 5024, haze gray 5H AK 5003, and the dark gray 5D AK 5021. With the life color though itís tough to clean up, soap and water works and isopropyl works but still takes time to get out of an airbrush, also it doesnít dry hard like tamiya and not as scratch resistant and sometimes doesnít like to stick to the primer, itís finicky but lays decent and levels ok. Great for camp coats where you donít need to attach masking tape over it, if you do, make sure it has a clear coat or you risk the paint lifting when you remove the tape. I would recommend the paint sets though even with what Iíve noted. Worth a look. Worst downside is price, I hope truecolor produces naval paint sets, Iíve heard wonderful things about them.



Hi Norman,

Wouldn't mind using model master but they are not easily available in the UK, . The lifecolor deck blue I had left over from the Independence build a few years back. The AK range I am not familiar with, might have a look for them as I will need to pick up the hull colours. I have always sprayed over a primer of basecoat, and have never had any problems masking over lifecolor paints.

Might have a look for the AK range and have a try. on the other hand I can match the light grey, ocean grey and dull black well enough with Tamiya colours.



Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 - 11:06 AM GMT+7
I have been using modelmaster 20B deck blue 2159, good March and itís enamel. Lays down great when thinned. Slow drying though. I also use the AK interactive naval series sets AK 5000 and AK 5020. They have just about every naval color used in WW 2. My favorite are the 20B deck blue AK 5001, flight deck blue 21 AK 5024, haze gray 5H AK 5003, and the dark gray 5D AK 5021. With the life color though itís tough to clean up, soap and water works and isopropyl works but still takes time to get out of an airbrush, also it doesnít dry hard like tamiya and not as scratch resistant and sometimes doesnít like to stick to the primer, itís finicky but lays decent and levels ok. Great for camp coats where you donít need to attach masking tape over it, if you do, make sure it has a clear coat or you risk the paint lifting when you remove the tape. I would recommend the paint sets though even with what Iíve noted. Worth a look. Worst downside is price, I hope truecolor produces naval paint sets, Iíve heard wonderful things about them.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 - 07:59 AM GMT+7

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looks like quite a lot of paint required to cover that hangar deck Si



It was a lot of paint Russ,

worth the base coat, gave the 20B a bit more depth. There is a lot more paint to go on this lady yet, (Might be worth buying some shares in Tamiya & lifecolor )

Thanks for looking in mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 09:15 AM GMT+7
looks like quite a lot of paint required to cover that hangar deck Si
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 06:05 AM GMT+7

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Si,

Nice progress. Removing those shutters will really show off the hangers.

Having open hangers really prevented many aircraft carriers from fatal damage after a bomb hit. That is one lesson the Japanese never learned and pay dearly at Midway.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

I am surprised how well that process went.

Some of the drawings in the AOTS will allow me add a little exta detail, but a crowd of aircraft will fill most of it.

Thanks for looking in mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 - 09:51 AM GMT+7
Si,

Nice progress. Removing those shutters will really show off the hangers.

Having open hangers really prevented many aircraft carriers from fatal damage after a bomb hit. That is one lesson the Japanese never learned and pay dearly at Midway.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 - 08:47 AM GMT+7
This weekend's progress.

The front of the hanger superstructure fitted, a bit more filler needed.



Single mk51 director tub made by cutting down part of the twin tub, adding plastic strip ribs and a plasticard gusset plate.



The 40mm tubs under structure has been given a finishing coat of citadel liquid green stuff, this is easy to way to get a nice smooth finish.

Boxes, for want of a better name, around the hanger deck edges.



Hanger deck given a base coat of Tamiya AS8 sea blue.



and a top coat of Lifecolor 20B deck blue.



Rub down decals on the forward elevator.



The forward elevator in the lowered position.



First shutter section removed.



Starboard side done.



Port side done, except for the deck edge elevator. It would appear that the shutter divides must also be removed if the elevator is in operation, but I have not found any decent photographs of the exact configuration.



finally, there will be quite a few aircraft in the hanger, the first Helldiver part built and ready for paint.



More soon

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 06:04 AM GMT+7

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Yorktown to Intrepid.



For what it's worth, this isn't a ship change as much as a time change. Both Yorktown and Intrepid had the single quad 40mm on the stern as launched and finished the war with the twin quad 40mm configuration by the end of the war. The Trumpeter CV-9 Essex kit contains the single tub pieces as it's more of an "as launched" configuration.



Thanks Tracy,

appreciate the tip, did think about using that kit and building Intrepid straight out of the yard, but I prefer the '44 camouflage.

Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 05:55 AM GMT+7

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The prop shafts and rudder in place.



FYI: the struts that support the shafts are "V" shaped, as seen in this photo from NavSource:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021155b.jpg





Thanks for the info Martin,

At least it will be an easyish fix, on the list for this weekend's time in the workshop.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 05:51 AM GMT+7

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Nice work on the gun tub and the rearrangements. Does the Pontos set not provide replacements for these or are these changes due to switching Yorktown to Intrepid.

cheers
Michael



Hi Michael,

The Pontos set does not provide 40mm tub replacements, it provide ammo racks for them and some variations for the 20mm fittings, it is really designed to fit the Yorktown kit as provided. Also some variety in radar too, which will make the conversion easier.

Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 04:26 AM GMT+7

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Yorktown to Intrepid.



For what it's worth, this isn't a ship change as much as a time change. Both Yorktown and Intrepid had the single quad 40mm on the stern as launched and finished the war with the twin quad 40mm configuration by the end of the war. The Trumpeter CV-9 Essex kit contains the single tub pieces as it's more of an "as launched" configuration.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 - 11:29 AM GMT+7

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The prop shafts and rudder in place.



FYI: the struts that support the shafts are "V" shaped, as seen in this photo from NavSource:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021155b.jpg


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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 06:11 PM GMT+7
Nice work on the gun tub and the rearrangements. Does the Pontos set not provide replacements for these or are these changes due to switching Yorktown to Intrepid.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 06:45 AM GMT+7
good in, and interesting chatting about all the great museum ships around the world, but back to business.

The single 40mm tub converted from the kit twin.



Fitted in place.



The underside structure under way.



The rough shape built out of plastic strip.



Rough coat of filler on.



sanded and a second coat on.



And the second coat sanded, ready for a coat of primer thence a final polish up.



The starboard quarter 40mm tubs are further inboard and the after one further forward on the Intrepid. The fwd of the pair is in the correct position and the after as provided in the kit.



Both tubs in the correct position. A little work to be done on the underside of both of them.



The port forward 40mm sponson in fitted in place.



The plan is to get a few more bits down and then get some paint on the hanger deck, before hacking the shutters out of the hanger sidewalls.

More soon.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 06:36 AM GMT+7
Iím sure you could sell the US trip with some planned stops for her as well, also with as many modelers across the nation you could sell the idea of not paying for hotels and stay with fellow builders hahaha Iím sure she would love that idea. Donít feel bad though, I live in the Midwest, and still havenít found the time or funds to travel and see the museum ships. I have visited wright Patterson Air Force bade museum and it is impressive. To the build at hand, the speed in which you build still amazes me, in the time it takes you to post four kit updates Iíve managed to build 15 type 96 IJN AA guns. Keep it up, I love seeing aircraft carriers built, an art in all its own.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 06:09 AM GMT+7

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I visited Intrepid when I was in New York a couple of years ago with my son. It doesn't bear much resemblance to the Intrepid Simon is building but it was pretty cool to have alook around the ship and the planes on deck.



That is true Michael,

But I do have the angle deck Intrepid in the stash. (Would be useful to walk the deck before I build that one) I am now getting dumb idea of also converting one of the straight deck kits into a 27 Charlie. I need to go and have a lie down until the idea goes away!

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 06:03 AM GMT+7

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I've been aboard both those vessels (both long after they became museum ships) so the odds are that I'll try to build kits of them at some point, depending on the space available for display. Sadly my wife is now able to look at photos of PE and resin upgrade kits such as you posted and have a pretty good idea of the cost of the build. Usually some nice earrings will smooth over that situation.



Hi Doug,

I am a lttle jealous of that, I would love to visit these fine ships, it is convincing Mrs Duster that a trip round the US visiting Museum ships would be a good idea. Earrings, nice move, I will have to remember that next time I realise I have pushed my luck to far on the hobby spending.

Cheers

Si



This year I've managed to convince her a visit to San Diego to see the impressive collection of ships they have there, especially USS Midway and "HMS" Surprise, would be a great idea. That's going to mean a lot of earrings.



I think that one will take more than earrings, I was allowed to visit the Wasa last time in Stockholm, which Mrs Duster did enjoy. I keep the hoping, maybe a retirement trip with a few other sites thrown in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 07, 2018 - 06:06 PM GMT+7
I visited Intrepid when I was in New York a couple of years ago with my son. It doesn't bear much resemblance to the Intrepid Simon is building but it was pretty cool to have alook around the ship and the planes on deck.