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IJN anti-aircraft cruiser Isuzu 1944 1:350
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 04:32 AM UTC
That's one impressive looking flotilla Thomas!
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 11:52 AM UTC
Great work on the ships boats. I like the variety of styles and finishes.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2018 - 08:14 PM UTC
Due to my progress the armory steps nearer. As I compared the weapon stands for the single 25 mm AA guns between Aoshima`s plan and the drawings I do have from Draminsky and a free Profile Morskie Pdf download there are, again, some substantial differences between Aoshima and the reality. I will need to add some more single stands as you can see from the still brass colored platforms


What I already can say now is that Aoshima made it easy for themselves in different points. If you really want to have an accurate model (which I wanted) it will be essential to get the Flyhawk set. But even this is not enough wenn you have close looks to accurate drawings. The original kit, released in 2009 was based on the NAGARA. The KINU followed the same year. In 2012 they added some more sprues and released the ISUZU. All three ships come out from the same class but, of course, have each one its own characteristic features and details which differs from each other.

The Flyhawk set is nice and a big progress with their correction of the main superstructure buildings but still some details of the bridge platforms remain wrong. But for me it is impossible to change that with my ration of available patience.

Also in Flyhawk´s set the gun barrels for the 25 mm are just flat PE-parts which looks odd for me. Thats the reason I was buying the BIGBLUEBOY set with turned barrels. With this set you are also able to finish 36 pieces of this gun - this enables me now to add the missing 7 pieces now which are not reproduced within the kit.

Another drawback with this AOSHIMA kit is the complete absence of a rigging plan. HASEGAWA have nicely done rigging plans which I would have wished me here too. But I am fortunate to have the Profile Morskie Pdf.file which will be helpful here.

On the "good" side I can say about this kit that the quality of the parts is very good - maybe not on par with HASEGAWA but still very nice. The fit is flawless and within this kit there will be left a lot spareparts for future projects.
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2018 - 11:51 PM UTC
Great job on the boats Thomas,

They will look splendid in place, good luck with armament too.

looking forward to seeing more progress.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 03:17 AM UTC
I feel your pain Thomas!

Often times kit manufacturers take the path of: close enough is good enough

This can be very frustrating for us with the knowledge of each ship's own variations between sisters of a class and often times results in purchases of multiple sets of aftermarket just to get somewhere near the correct fit we desire.

Nonetheless your efforts are paying off and Isuzu is coming along very well! Don't give up-you're nearly there now!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 02:13 PM UTC
Thomas,

sorry for my recent silence, but I'm still following. Ditto to all that was said, you're doing an absolutely excellent job here, she looks splendid. You PE work in particular is really awesome!!

One small hint - be care careful with the profile morskie plans, I'd say they are not necessarily correct, and that's a very carful description. I've heard much more direct comments. I have some of them, too - for HMS Hood, it's not more than a rough guess but rather far away from reality, and that in some really substantial areas (funnels, shape of aft shelter deck...)

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 02:23 PM UTC

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Thomas,

sorry for my recent silence, but I'm still following. Ditto to all that was said, you're doing an absolutely excellent job here, she looks splendid. You PE work in particular is really awesome!!

One small hint - be care careful with the profile morskie plans, I'd say they are not necessarily correct, and that's a very carful description. I've heard much more direct comments. I have some of them, too - for HMS Hood, it's not more than a rough guess but rather far away from reality, and that in some really substantial areas (funnels, shape of aft shelter deck...)

Cheers,
Jan



Oh boy, so these days you really can not trust anyone anymore; right?! I was sure this Profile Morskie Magazin is the best I could get exept from some exotic japanese language books. Looks like I should have chosen these japanese books...

Actually I have already seen discrepancies between the Draminsky and the Profile Morskie plans and starting to wondering.
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 06:47 AM UTC
Before I fix all the superstructure parts I wanted to finish the hull. I was some time thinking how to continue with the hull - leave it as clean (and somehow a bit boring to me) or try to weather the surfaces a bit. I decided for the latter choice and tried to give it a gentle and realistic looking for an old workhorse who, albeit got frequently overhauls, will inevitable suffer from saltwater at see. This is what I tried to replicate.

I also finished the portholes with Kristal Klear and fixed the ships depth marking decals:

Stern part:


Bow part:


complete ship´s view:



After this I painted the "kikukamonshō", the Imperial Seal of Japan at the ships bow. Every substantial Battleship did carry this Emblem of the Emperor.


Then there was just the Kanji ship´s Name ISUZU as a brass nameplate at the ship´s stern left. The Name Isuzu comes from a famous river in the province Ise. All Japanese cruisers were named after famous Japanes rivers or mountains.


Next will be the Installation of the cutters and their davits
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 07:00 AM UTC
Looking good Thomas,

The chrysanthemum stands out beautifully on the bow.

She has quite sleek lines for an elderly lady.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 09:31 AM UTC
I like the addition of the "kikukamonshō" and the ships name. Adds a nice touch.

Interesting to learn that the IJN honoured their rivers and mountains that way
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 11:59 PM UTC
Thomas,

Nice finish on the hull, she really is looking awesome.

I believe the Kikukamonshō emblem is on all Japanese military ships to show they were the property of emperor not just on capital ships.

Mark
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2018 - 05:53 AM UTC

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Thomas,

Nice finish on the hull, she really is looking awesome.

I believe the Kikukamonshō emblem is on all Japanese military ships to show they were the property of emperor not just on capital ships.

Mark



Hmm... I do have two other IJN ships: The Heian Maru submarine tender and a small Type 28 class submarine chaser - both have no Chrysanthemum at their bow . Actually I have no idea which were the rules for attaching them on which ships at which time.

Maybe we have an IJN crack with us who can enlighten us here?!
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2018 - 04:34 AM UTC
I found time to paint the canvas for the bridge´s railings. The pictures I have from the ship do show her railings in canvas exept for the very top railings:



then I glued the lifeboats and the completed bridge onto the ships hull; she is starting to look busy now




some small and fragile rear fenders were installed



and now it is finally time for the railings . I did start with some rear upper railings - therefore I still left the rear mast off for a better handling of the railings



Flyhawk´s instructions are not clear in many areas, so also in installing the railings. Not all railings are listed in the instructions, just the front part of the ship. Most of the rear railings is guesswork . I decided therefore to start with the listed railings within the construction menue and then look for the rest
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2018 - 01:03 PM UTC

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Then there was just the Kanji ship´s Name ISUZU as a brass nameplate at the ship´s stern left.



Not Kanji but Hiragana. It's the one that most school children learn first. Kanji is essentially Chinese.


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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2018 - 09:30 PM UTC

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Then there was just the Kanji ship´s Name ISUZU as a brass nameplate at the ship´s stern left.



Not Kanji but Hiragana. It's the one that most school children learn first. Kanji is essentially Chinese.






Thank you for setting this straight Gary, I wasn´t aware of this
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2018 - 10:02 AM UTC
Looking good Thomas!

Hm, railings always seem to be a bit of hit n miss when it comes to instructions... I'm sure you'll figure it out though.

Nice photos by the way. Very clear and good colour balance
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2018 - 05:43 AM UTC

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Nice photos by the way. Very clear and good colour balance




Thank you. This is just my Samsung Note Edge 4 - it makes pretty nice pictures for itself and have a powerful zoom. And for finetuning I use Windows chrome picture program.


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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2018 - 11:00 AM UTC
Thomas,

Nice work on painting the canvas and setting those railings. I do have a concern with how the bridge superstructure is sitting on the deck. There seems to be a wide gap on portside between the deck and the superstructure. Do you any plans to fill it in?

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 06:50 AM UTC
Looking really good Thomas,

She is coming to life with as the detail goes on.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 08:03 AM UTC

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Thomas,

Nice work on painting the canvas and setting those railings. I do have a concern with how the bridge superstructure is sitting on the deck. There seems to be a wide gap on portside between the deck and the superstructure. Do you any plans to fill it in?

Mark



Mark you are absolutely right about that - I will look if I could fix that with a thin needle and a shot of Kristal Klear, injected into the gap. If its dry I just need to overpaint the clear surface.


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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 08:08 AM UTC

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Looking really good Thomas,

She is coming to life with as the detail goes on.

Cheers

Si



Simon thank you. Yes she is getting very busy now and I really need to take care where to touch her in order not to break parts away (which already occured with the funnel cables . I already finished the frontal railings; just the middle and aft ones missing. Then we are coming to the armament...


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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2018 - 05:39 PM UTC

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Thomas,

Nice work on painting the canvas and setting those railings. I do have a concern with how the bridge superstructure is sitting on the deck. There seems to be a wide gap on portside between the deck and the superstructure. Do you any plans to fill it in?

Mark




I tried to close some gaps with a shot Kristal Klear and it worked very well



After it was dry I masked off the areas and painted the affected areas


it does look much better now than before



Cheers

Thomas
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2018 - 05:49 PM UTC
This weekend I was able to finish all the railings; it was more easier then I was thinking








the aft upper heavy AA gun platform railings were the most difficult ones as there was this ellipsoid shape of the gangway -but anyhow I was able to accomplish it



Now I will move on with the armament!
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Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2018 - 01:38 AM UTC
Already have the last two of the three twin 12,7 cm AA guns finished . This got me a foretaste for small parts of the upcoming 25 mm guns...




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Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2018 - 06:40 AM UTC
Looking Excellent Thomas.

There is a stunning depth of detail that really shows up in your photographs.

The twin 127mm look very good pieces of kit indeed, looking forward to seeing them painted and in place.

Good luck with the 25mm mounts.

Cheers

Si