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HMS Hood 1941 - Trumpeter 1/350 + Lion Roar
JJ1973
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 05:38 PM UTC
Thank you very much Russ!! Yep, those PomPoms are a little bit special

Anyway, let's go for the next chapter of the story

One general rule - all the PE needs to be bent in the way that the etched markings/lines are facing inside the bend. Well, with one exception, that is the first part that I showed that covers the breech block, but that is rather obvious.

Now the cradle - somehow it seems I have not much in progress pictures. A little origami:



The first bend is important to add some general stability.



The stand/joint for the breech block is in the center, however, as I said, I could not get it to work - I decided to cut it



and I ended up removing the geared wheels from the breech to make it fit. In addition, as mentioned, the block is too wide and needs sanding down at both sides, otherwise it will squeeze the cradle into odd angles. As you can see, I did not get it entirely right, next time I need to sand down a little more.

Well, here it is:







Next, the chute for spend ammunition, built out of two parts:







And addad:





And now, for a part of real advanced metal origami, the base. You definitely want to think your steps through before you start. Or you can do it as I did - just do it and decide that the first attempt is not really what you desire...
Problem here is the sequence of the bends, bending some parts without effecting others, and most imported, get your 90 angles really 90, otherwise you'll end up with some unpleasant surprises later on...

Let's go - and always bend towards the marking line...

The part initially:



One side up





Important - the little steps in the 'corners' left and right, two micro bends.





Building the side platforms





Should look like that...







Some more smaller details





Now the platforms need to get in their correct positions, and by this building the lower base plate and the area where the cradle will go later on.







If you mess up the angles during this step - and I am not 100% right here, as you may be able to see - the whole structure is slightly out of shape. You don't realise it right away, but later on when other parts are added...
(You can spot some voids in the corners indicating that my angles are slightly off)







Should look something like this:





And to finish for today, the structure below the base plate added. Nine (!) microscopical profiles to add. I made a mistake in using thin ca glue at first, it works better with gel. You can maybe see the differences left/right side, one hast quite some spilled glue.









All right, good point for a break, office is calling!

Next chapter soon (tomorrow??), so stay tuned

Thanks for looking in,

cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 07:33 PM UTC
Jan,

First off, I apologize for my absence. I have been watching but not necessarily in a position to respond to anyones posts. I believe I am past that.

Your work on the Hood is amazing. I am really enjoying the tutorial you are giving on the Pom-Pom's. Amazing work and attention to detail.

I am happy to say that at this point I do not have anything on the bench that requires such complicated moves.

Truly aspiring work.

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 05:35 PM UTC
Hi Dave,

no apology needed, not at all!! I know too well what you're talking about with commenting, I'm in the very same situation from time to time. And I'm glad to know you are following, whether you have the chance to comment or not is not that important - good to know to have you in!!

So I'm having about 15 minutes to post some update before the office is calling again, let's see that I can show some more PomPom craziness !

Next is getting the whole cradle installed on the platform. This was a little trial and error, and I ended up removing the spent ammo chute, put the cradle in place and re-install the chute.





Chute back on.



Some impressions.









Now for the magazines. Again, those resin parts are slightly too big, so they need some sanding to fit into their - nicely done - 'seats'.





Another issue there should be a link cast on the magazines that fits into the breech. However, this link does not exist. Not a big problem, but somewhat confusing...

Magazines in place.





Small stuff, like sights and some bars and levers added.













And eventually, the railing and some parts that look a little like layers seat's on the railing, but I'm not quite sure. No other kit has those details, as far as I know.



















Some final bends - getting some instrument panels in the correct position left and right of the cradle.









With that it's done - more or less. But before I'll paint, I will start the small production line. Than paint the turned brass barrels for all three, and than it should be really done.

So I'm away this weekend, and I'll see how I squeeze in some bench time over the next week. Anyway, posting here will drop down, since I'll be mostly buys with my production line, so not so much to show.
-and, should the next up in the production line show progress, I might decide to build three new ones...but I'll decide that after the next PomPom is done.

So that's it for know, as always thank you all for following and looking in here!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 10:52 PM UTC
Wow! Just Wow, Jan!

What a project! Only 3 more to go
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 01:35 AM UTC
Amazing origami work, Jan - I'll never look at one of these pom poms the same way again!
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 05:01 AM UTC
Jan,

Thanks for the understanding...

As Tim and Russell said...WOW!!!

that is some amazing origami work. I have not had the opportunity to work on something as complex as that, luckily for me the IJN engineering for the 25mm AA Guns is a bit more simplistic, not sure I have the skills or figure manipulation capability to accomplish what you have with your Pom-Poms.

Amazing work!!!

Dave
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Posted: Monday, March 06, 2017 - 07:57 AM UTC
Yeah, I found the Hood build. I'm a little late, but I'm all caught up!

Great work Jan! The PE is insanely small. I'm just getting into the PE so by the time I get to that level I hope I'm that good

I was watching someone solder the PE have you tried that before?

Excellent build so far!
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2017 - 07:12 AM UTC
Russ, Tim and Dave,

thank you once again for following and for your kind comments!!

Mike,

welcome aboard and great to have you in!! - I've seen PE soldering, I think Warren did some soldering here on MSW. I think it's good for bigger scales, I don't think it would work on those tiny parts - at least not with the soldering equipment that I have.

So, time was/is flying by and I see that a lot was going on here - i have to catch up with quite some builds! However, internet is slow on me today, so I will leave it with this one post for today. More comments when everything is up to speed again...

I hope those few pictures will show...

I was working on the PomPoms. Yes, three to go, decision is made not to use the first two. I think No. three is looking way better - not finished yet, of course, and the front rails are not in positions. But I could avoid some earlier mistakes and the appearance is more sound. At least I think so.









And more losses: this part of the cradle was almost finished and I was trying to get the breech block inserted when I dropped it. My office chair was quicker to catch it than I, so it was entirely bent. I spent quite some time to straighten it, flattened it completely, but the damage is to severe, at this point shown I decided that it will not work - the necessary accuracy for those parts, in particular the correct angles, is too high, this part would spoil the whole arrangement...



So much for now, I hope to make some more progress over the coming week - but it looks rather busy office-wise...

Thanks for looking in and cheers,

Jan
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 08:06 AM UTC
Hi Jan,

Small progress is better than no progress mate, do understand what you mean about work / real life keeping you away from the bench.

Hope you get some time soon.

cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 09:47 AM UTC
More nano-engineered magic Jan...

It's funny how these small details take such a large percentage of time it takes to build such a large kit...

But it will all be worth it in the end!

Hope real life doesn't keep you from the bench too long
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Posted: Sunday, March 19, 2017 - 05:39 PM UTC
Hi Si and Russ!!

Thank you very much for your comments and bearing with my (still not accelerating) speed....

I was hoping to get some good bench time out of last week/weekend, but instead I got a couple of days TDY thrown in, quick trip to Norway for some consultations. Actually not too bad, but not good for progress...

So showing that I'm still alive by making many pictures of only small work...anyway, this is to show my third PomPom, and the first that I am contend with. So I will scrap the first two and go from here. Ready except for the barrels (and paint).















Maybe it's hard to tell from the picture, but this was was a big progress - it did fall in place way better, the general shape is more 'straight' and all parts, including the geared wheels underneath the breeches are in place. So two to go... (the good one is on the righthand side - good to see is that all the sights are better aligned)





All right, office time!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, March 20, 2017 - 07:21 AM UTC
Nice work Jan,

Good class on using the North star pompoms. The do look really good when you get them right.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, March 20, 2017 - 08:46 AM UTC
nice work on the Pom Pom's Jan...

I know what you're going through at the moment-having the same kinda fun with the Prinz's AA set
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Posted: Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:45 AM UTC
Great tutorial Jan and you can see the improvement in the third pompom over the first effort. It looks like a good idea to over order so you have some leeway with practice since they seem to be extraordinarily fiddly. Good luck with the rest!

cheers
Michael